Friday, August 12, 2011

UK Aplomb; Texas Stupid

(larger type, emphasis mine - DG) from MSNBC.com:
Once again, a lack of education in history, including Texas history; there have been plenty of riots in Texas over the years. None of them seem to be resolved positively by law enforcement shootings.  Riots occur because of stresses and frustrations; they are not prevented or ended by simply issuing or acquiring guns.  This is an other one of those 'common sense' solutions which is in reality simplistic and stupid and which can make a bad situation worse.

An older example:
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdfres=F70E12FF355D1A728DDDA90B94D1405B818CF1D3

And a more recent example, also including property damage and fire:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/01/texas.prison.riot/

An overview, of sorts, is here:
http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/jcr02

which includes these paragraphs, although it clearly doesn't cove the second half of the 20th century, or the first decade of the 21st century :
"The most common cause of riots in the first half of the twentieth century was public outrage toward prisoners. Mob threats of violence to prisoners necessitated the use of state troops on four occasions in 1900. In 1901 three lynchings by mobs took place despite the calling of state troops; in two instances the troops suppressed the mobs. At Brenham rioting broke out over the employment of a black brakeman by a railway; it was suppressed after two days. In 1902 mob violence brought on the use of state troops three times. In one instance the mob hanged a prisoner before the troops' arrival. Troops were called out three times on this account in 1903, twice in 1904, three times in 1905, and once in 1906. The Brownsville Raid qv (1906) precipitated a serious race riot involving black soldiers. Troops were needed elsewhere in 1907 and 1908; in the latter year rioting at Slocum resulted in the killing of more than ten blacks. Other mob actions in the first decade of the century resulted from strikes at Houston in 1904 and racial tension at Ragley the same year. Riots also took place in San Antonio and Fort Worth in April and May of 1913. The Houston Riot of 1917 was started by about 150 black troops from Camp Logan, a temporary training center near the city. The riot, touched off by the arrest of a black woman, was the culmination of general uneasiness and hostility following the establishment of the camp. It resulted in the deaths of seventeen people, mostly whites; the anger of an aroused white population necessitated martial law for four days. The Longview Race Riot of 1919 also resulted in the proclamation of martial law. A strike at Galveston in 1920 produced lawlessness that required the help of the Texas National Guard. Mexia was declared in a state of anarchy because of a riot and was placed under martial law from January to March 1922. The Sherman Riot of 1930 stemmed from the arrest of a black who had assaulted a white woman; rangers were called to protect the prisoner, but a mob set fire to the courthouse and virtually seized control of the town. When troops of the Texas National Guard arrived, they were attacked by the mob, and before martial law restored order, a number of buildings were destroyed. Enforcement of oil-conservation laws in the 1930s also necessitated the use of the National Guard to suppress mob lawlessness.

The guard was also called in September 1937 to suppress mob violence at Marshall and again to quell the Beaumont Riot of 1943. In Beaumont a white mob, outraged at the assault of a white woman by a black, terrorized the black section of town. Two died and 100 homes were destroyed. In 1955 the National Guard was used to control a riot at Rusk State Hospital. In May 1967 a riot that occurred among black students at Texas Southern University in Houston resulted in the death of one policeman and the wounding of two students and two police officers. Though the immediate cause of the riot was the arrest of a student, the night-long incident was related to general racial tension. "
Both massive property damage - as in the example of the destruction of 100 homes - and racial tension appear to be factors in common with the UK rioting and the history of riots in Texas.

It wouldn't surprise me if the other people in the room when this woman spoke up actually had a better grasp of Texas history than this dim bulb, in spite of being, presumably, mostly citizens of the UK.

Where are the guns? A Texan's take on the UK riots


Daniel Deme / EPA (photo credit)
Police officers patrol the streets of Camden, in north London, on Monday. An extra 10,000 officers were brought in from other parts of the country to help to quell rioting and looting that engulfed parts of the capital.

By Heather Lacy, NBC News assignment editor

LONDON - We’ve been on five-day roller-coaster here in the NBC News London bureau, what with riots and looting breaking out across the capital and the country.

We’re all wondering if the “criminality pure and simple,” as Prime Minister David Cameron put it, will pop up again, or if the uneasy calm we have now will hold.

Everyone in the newsroom has been discussing the recent violence, the worst this country has seen in three decades. Why would people set fire to stores, cars and homes, looting, wounding, killing and destroying property as they go? Who could do this? How did the police fail to bring order for days?

As everyone in the newsroom debated the use of force – whether to use rubber bullets, tear gas, water cannons, Tasers, even bean-bag guns – I wondered why they were wasting their breath.
“If your cops had guns, day number 2, 3, 4 and 5 of this, it would NOT have happened!” I said at a recent meeting.
People stopped talking and looked at me. A couple giggled. Those who know me weren’t too horrified, but others stared at me like I’d just drop-kicked a puppy.
Transplanted Texan

I’m a relatively recent London implant, having moved from Texas a few years back. I’m surrounded mostly by Brits who are usually amused and occasionally appalled at some of my comments.

“In fact, why are we even talking about this?” I asked. “A couple batons aren’t gonna do the trick when the rioters have Molotov cocktails, bricks and knifes, and they outnumber the police.”
When I first moved here I was surprised when I discovered that “bobbies on the beat” (cops on the street) don’t carry guns. Apparently, when the Metropolitan Police Service was founded they thought arming the officers would scare the public. How quaint, I thought.

There is an armed contingent, the Authorised Firearms Officers, which makes up about a third of the Met’s numbers, but they don’t patrol routinely and are only called in when needed. And getting a firearms certificate as a private citizen is very difficult, if not impossible, unless you live in the countryside.
Now, I’m not suggesting police just go out and start capping people carte blanche, but I can assure you those brave and defiant “hooded youths” (as they were described by many a British broadcaster) would not have been so brave or defiant if they had a lethal weapon pointed at them.
Yes, there’s an argument for unarmed police, and yes the British police do have an armed unit, but I’m not going to get into the minutiae. I just want to know, what’s so bad about a show of force in the form of a gun?

I mean, you don’t see anything like this kicking off in Texas, do you?
Yes. You do.

What an embarrassment that this person is in a news position, with such a background of ignorance. Odds are she knows even less about the UK and their history, or world history generally, than what she knows of Texas. The history of Texas is not the same as the myth of guns in Texas, or the myths of  "Texas-style" law and order.  It's no wonder George W. Bush was a joke in the UK. 

4 comments:

  1. "When I first moved here I was surprised when I discovered that 'bobbies on the beat' (cops on the street) don’t carry guns."

    As someone who lived in England for a few years, this quotation angers me because it is indicative of what we Americans are often accused of and what I worked hard to counter-act: a lack of fore-knowledge about anywhere else in the world. One would think that someone in the professional position of the speaker would have studied this scenario (and others, of course) beforehand in order to avoid looking like an insular prat and "discovering" such things in a public and embarrassing manner. If you study-up on other places before you go there you will avoid looking like some sort of hick babe in the woods. It's rather easy to do, and people appreciate it, which means that making connections with others wherever you relocate is easier than it otherwise would be, too.

    By the way, I've been to Texas plenty of times. Yes, it has its advantages, but it has obvious disadvantages, too. I don't want to get into them now. Let's just say that those disadvantages happen to be somewhat different from the disadvantages in places like Minnesota or the U.K. They are, however, quite apparent.

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  2. Holy sheepdip, cowboy!

    I mean, yur darn' tootin' we dunt git none o them rioters in Texas, cause' ifn' we do, we got rope and bullets and we just start killin' and killin' some more til thar ain't no one left ta kill! What the heck is wrong with you damn city slickers!

    Look at Iraq, why dun't ya'? I mean, half er more o' them US Army boys is from Texas, and we DAMN sure don't put up with no funny business thar. We killed them Al Qaedas all ta hell, course a few o them had guns and all, and they blew up a lot o our boys.. that was tragic.. but we KILLED em and KILLED em and KILLED em, and o course a few kids and such died an all, well that was a little tragic, but they were "Hajis" after all, and we KILLED em some more.. and ya know what, after a while... oh.

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  3. Truly a case of Americans trying to impose their values on the rest of the world--as they have done in their own country.

    The DC v. Heller decision was orchestrated by the Koch Brothers funded Cato Institute, not some private citizen with a good case. This organisation worked to overturn popular gun control laws in DC and Chicago. There is this desire to impose an armed mentality throughout the world.

    The British police would prefer to have more active policing than using force to stop disturbances. There is a culture of prevention rather than reaction in the United Kingdom.

    We have learned our lessons from the social uphevel in Ulster to know that force is not the best way to manage rioters.

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  4. Here's the article I wanted to quote from the Guardian:
    US-style policing in the UK? No thanks:

    There far more people in prison in the US than in China, with four times the population, and gun violence is rampant – more than 12,000 gun-related homicides in 2007 alone. It's a wonderful country in all sorts of ways if you're not poor, very hard if you are.

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